Well if that ****e is not sorted by Nov.12th, out goes FireStick and in comes Roku.
It will not bother me. As Penrose said, the two devices may co-exist and you chose what to do based on the features each device provides. Your choice. Ultimatums made on this forum have no effect on what Amazon choses to do. Contact Amazon directly and enjoy your Roku. I know that Amazon's environment has permitted me to save more than $150 / month that I was paying to Direct TV. I am happy with their service. In this rapidly changing environment, no one knows what will be the next piece of hardware with features that may entice Amazon users to switch. As a user one needs to continually evaluate available streaming options to see if the features offered are ones you desire. Feardorcha you appear to have made your choice. Enjoy it.
I have both the Fire Stick and the Roku Stick. Disney+ will be on the Roku to start with. I picked up Disney+ for the 3 year deal. Also I am looking forward to it. Picked up a Roku Express+ for $24 at Walmart the other day.
I have two fire TV's (Stick & Pendant), two Roku's, and a Chromecast. Pretty much covers everything. All I bought on sale at one time or another, so if an app does not show up on one platform, I can get it off another one. If you look for deals, the units have good deals.
I like how Amazon is indicating it's Disney decision. From what I read its due to Amazon wanting to advertise on the app. I for one will be getting rid of my 5 sticks due to this fact and find another method for my streaming. Very disappointed with Amazon.
No, it is not Amazon wanting to advertise on the Disney apps. Amazon an Disney are in talks for how much of the ad revenue the Disney apps on Amazon devices generate that Amazon will get. Remember, these apps are entirely free so distributors like Amazon (Apple, Roku, Google, etc) do not get any money for hosting and distributing them. And it's made even worse when those apps compete with the distributors own media streaming services. When negotiating with the media app companies, Amazon normally starts at a 40% request and negotiates down to 30 or 20%. For example Roku normally asks for 30% of the ad revenue, and is reportedly getting 15% of the Hulu subscription fees for those who subscribe on the Roku Hulu channel. The people leaking what is going on between Amazon and Disney say that it is Disney that is playing hardball this time around, not Amazon. They state that Disney believes that they have substantial clout with all their popular apps (Hulu, Disney Now, the upcoming Disney+) and is holding out for as low as 10%. Considering the recent spat between Disney and Marvel, it is believable that it is Disney playing hardball here. This is all in the Wall Street Journal article on the negotiations.
Personally, I do not care who is to blame. As others in this thread have said, there are many other ways to watch Disney+. If Disney+ is not available on my Fire Stick, I will just watch it on my Roku! I won't be throwing away my Fire Stick, I just won't be watching Disney+ on my Fire Stick. ...no big deal!
Personally, I do not care who is to blame. As others in this thread have said, there are many other ways to watch Disney+. If Disney+ is not available on my Fire Stick, I will just watch it on my Roku! I won't be throwing away my Fire Stick, I just won't be watching Disney+ on my Fire Stick. ...no big deal!
A very rational and adult approach, I wish more would emulate you. :)
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Incorrect. Amazon isn't being greedy, the share of ad revenues they ask is how they get paid for allowing providers to be in their ecosystem. Google and ROku both do the exact same thing. The dispute is over what percentage will be "charged".
"Now with just one week left before its big November 12 launch, the highly anticipated Disney+ streaming service still hasn't announced an app for Amazon Fire TV devices." Seriously? You can't work this out? My guess is you'll end up losing a lot of business if don't get your acts together.
"Now with just one week left before its big November 12 launch, the highly anticipated Disney+ streaming service still hasn't announced an app for Amazon Fire TV devices." Seriously? You can't work this out? My guess is you'll end up losing a lot of business if don't get your acts together.
Have you read any of the preceding posts? This is two corporate giants battling over tens/hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.
I doubt either side will lose business in the end. People who want to watch Disney will buy a thing they can watch Disney on. A Roku stick is dirt cheap and people will still watch Amazon as well. The money isn't in the devices, they sell at close to cost if not at a loss, it is the subscriptions and ad revenue where the money is. I have one of each: Fire/Roku as I prefer getting things done to sitting and wondering why I can't do X and I hate single point sources of failure. If I want to watch something and one device doesn't support it, the other will.
A few people will posture and claim they will never do business with A or D ever ever again but they will be back, albeit quietly as their desire for entertainment or what have you will outweigh their principles.
If you really think two enormous businesses will suddenly stop their negotiations that involve more money than you and I will ever see in a hundred lifetimes because someone is unhappy with them, you do not understand business at all. ;)
Apple and Amazon have never "worked it out" for example which is why you cannot make purchases on an iPad via the Amazon apps and have to use a browser. This is real grown up business and has no bearing on "get over it and provide me with what I want" level arguments.
NOTE: I do NOT speak for or represent Amazon in any fashion. This is a customer to customer forum.
Disclaimer: I have examined any sites I provide links for and have determined them to be safe but I make no promises about safety, content, ads served or anything that might make you clutch your pearls in horror. Use discretion clicking on links provided by total strangers such as myself.
Baymcc, you have not read the rest of this thread. Just purchase a Roku or other device that supports Disney +. As others have said there are many options and no one is forcing you to stay with Amazon devices. As a consumer you should be continually evaluating features provided by the various streaming vendors. When the features offered or not offered are sufficient to change to another service do it. Neither organization will be losing my business over this flap and a year from now it will not be on my radar.
Disney confirmed to Engadget that the one-time promo will be shown to some users once they finish signing up for the service and entering payment details.
A Disney spokesperson told The Verge the ad is part of a deal the company struck with Starz to reobtain the streaming licenses to some of its content -- including, most notably, Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The company was forced to make the concession to ensure subscribers could watch movies like The Force Awakens at launch.
It will not bother me. As Penrose said, the two devices may co-exist and you chose what to do based on the features each device provides. Your choice. Ultimatums made on this forum have no effect on what Amazon choses to do. Contact Amazon directly and enjoy your Roku. I know that Amazon's environment has permitted me to save more than $150 / month that I was paying to Direct TV. I am happy with their service. In this rapidly changing environment, no one knows what will be the next piece of hardware with features that may entice Amazon users to switch. As a user one needs to continually evaluate available streaming options to see if the features offered are ones you desire. Feardorcha you appear to have made your choice. Enjoy it.
You may contact Amazon using the url below:
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
I just found out that Disney+ won't be added to the Tivo app store. I'm going to through it out and cancel my subscription.
I'll no longer have TV. That'll show them! ;)
you are kidding are you not. It is not going to bother Amazon one way or another.
You may contact Amazon using the url below:
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
Of course I'm kidding!
You may contact Amazon using the url below:
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
I have both the Fire Stick and the Roku Stick. Disney+ will be on the Roku to start with. I picked up Disney+ for the 3 year deal. Also I am looking forward to it. Picked up a Roku Express+ for $24 at Walmart the other day.
I have two fire TV's (Stick & Pendant), two Roku's, and a Chromecast. Pretty much covers everything. All I bought on sale at one time or another, so if an app does not show up on one platform, I can get it off another one. If you look for deals, the units have good deals.
I agree. Buy another streaming device. They are all inexpensive enough, especially when on sale.
No, it is not Amazon wanting to advertise on the Disney apps. Amazon an Disney are in talks for how much of the ad revenue the Disney apps on Amazon devices generate that Amazon will get. Remember, these apps are entirely free so distributors like Amazon (Apple, Roku, Google, etc) do not get any money for hosting and distributing them. And it's made even worse when those apps compete with the distributors own media streaming services. When negotiating with the media app companies, Amazon normally starts at a 40% request and negotiates down to 30 or 20%. For example Roku normally asks for 30% of the ad revenue, and is reportedly getting 15% of the Hulu subscription fees for those who subscribe on the Roku Hulu channel. The people leaking what is going on between Amazon and Disney say that it is Disney that is playing hardball this time around, not Amazon. They state that Disney believes that they have substantial clout with all their popular apps (Hulu, Disney Now, the upcoming Disney+) and is holding out for as low as 10%. Considering the recent spat between Disney and Marvel, it is believable that it is Disney playing hardball here. This is all in the Wall Street Journal article on the negotiations.
Bad Wolf
It's funny that people are blaming Amazon. No one has mentioned that Disney has banned Netflix from advertising on it's channels.
Personally, I do not care who is to blame. As others in this thread have said, there are many other ways to watch Disney+. If Disney+ is not available on my Fire Stick, I will just watch it on my Roku! I won't be throwing away my Fire Stick, I just won't be watching Disney+ on my Fire Stick. ...no big deal!
A very rational and adult approach, I wish more would emulate you. :)
If all else fails, Amazon is 24/7 at https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
NOTE: I do NOT speak for or represent Amazon in any fashion. This is a customer to customer forum.
Disclaimer: I have examined any sites I provide links for and have determined them to be safe but I make no promises about safety, content, ads served or anything that might make you clutch your pearls in horror. Use discretion clicking on links provided by total strangers such as myself.
Incorrect. Amazon isn't being greedy, the share of ad revenues they ask is how they get paid for allowing providers to be in their ecosystem. Google and ROku both do the exact same thing. The dispute is over what percentage will be "charged".
Precedent has nothing to do with this, as Google, Amazon and Roku ALREADY do this. It's literally the business model they all use.
This is the most accurate post on here I've seen.
"Now with just one week left before its big November 12 launch, the highly anticipated Disney+ streaming service still hasn't announced an app for Amazon Fire TV devices." Seriously? You can't work this out? My guess is you'll end up losing a lot of business if don't get your acts together.
Have you read any of the preceding posts? This is two corporate giants battling over tens/hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue.
I doubt either side will lose business in the end. People who want to watch Disney will buy a thing they can watch Disney on. A Roku stick is dirt cheap and people will still watch Amazon as well. The money isn't in the devices, they sell at close to cost if not at a loss, it is the subscriptions and ad revenue where the money is. I have one of each: Fire/Roku as I prefer getting things done to sitting and wondering why I can't do X and I hate single point sources of failure. If I want to watch something and one device doesn't support it, the other will.
A few people will posture and claim they will never do business with A or D ever ever again but they will be back, albeit quietly as their desire for entertainment or what have you will outweigh their principles.
If you really think two enormous businesses will suddenly stop their negotiations that involve more money than you and I will ever see in a hundred lifetimes because someone is unhappy with them, you do not understand business at all. ;)
Apple and Amazon have never "worked it out" for example which is why you cannot make purchases on an iPad via the Amazon apps and have to use a browser. This is real grown up business and has no bearing on "get over it and provide me with what I want" level arguments.
If all else fails, Amazon is 24/7 at https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
NOTE: I do NOT speak for or represent Amazon in any fashion. This is a customer to customer forum.
Disclaimer: I have examined any sites I provide links for and have determined them to be safe but I make no promises about safety, content, ads served or anything that might make you clutch your pearls in horror. Use discretion clicking on links provided by total strangers such as myself.
Baymcc, you have not read the rest of this thread. Just purchase a Roku or other device that supports Disney +. As others have said there are many options and no one is forcing you to stay with Amazon devices. As a consumer you should be continually evaluating features provided by the various streaming vendors. When the features offered or not offered are sufficient to change to another service do it. Neither organization will be losing my business over this flap and a year from now it will not be on my radar.
You may contact Amazon using the url below:
https://www.amazon.com/contact-us
well speaking of disney plus and ads.
Disney confirmed to Engadget that the one-time promo will be shown to some users once they finish signing up for the service and entering payment details.
A Disney spokesperson told The Verge the ad is part of a deal the company struck with Starz to reobtain the streaming licenses to some of its content -- including, most notably, Star Wars: The Force Awakens. The company was forced to make the concession to ensure subscribers could watch movies like The Force Awakens at launch.
Disney+ seems to be working on my cousins firestick after being loaded in developer mode with no issues. :)